Update from Serbia 2009 World Student Games… (2)
Day 9 in Belgrade. Serbia clinch the title – Jul 11, 2009 (by Eurobasket News)
Final
Serbia – Russia 73:51
Serbia triumphed at the World University Games in Belgrade. In 2007 Serbia stopped one step away from the title but the home tournament brought the long-awaited success. Nemanja Protic (182-G-86) scored 19 points to pace the hosts past Russia.
Serbia set the flying tempo in the opening period. Russia struggled to match the rhythm as Serbia cleared off to an 11-point distance at the first break. Russia gradually adjusted and started to make their presence felt. They outgunned Serbia 20:17 in the second period to stay hopeful at halftime. But the second half became a nightmare for a Sergey Belov team. Low accuracy plagued Russia as they struggled to keep close with the home team. Serbia notched a 14-point advantage at three-quarter time. The home team remained aggressive defensively in the final quarter allowing their opponents to account for only 10 points.
Marko Simonovic (202-F-86, agency: Beo Basket) connected for 12 points for Serbia. Milan Macvan and Nemanja Bjelica added 8 points each in the victory. Aleksey Kotishevskiy (190-F-85) responded with 13 points for Russia. Eugeny Voronov had 12 points in the losing case.
Serbia: Nemanja Protic 19, Marko Simonovic 12, Milan Macvan 8, Nemanja Bjelica 8
Russia: Aleksey Kotishevskiy 13, Eugeny Voronov 12
Bronze medals game
USA – Israel 91:80
The USA celebrated the victory in the bronze medals game at the World University Games in Serbia. A Bo Ryan team held off pesky Israel to occupy the third position.
The first quarter was a close affair with neither team able to take a serious lead. The North American team enjoyed a slender 24:22 advantage at the first break. The US team paid more attention to defense in the second quarter to hold Israel to 14 points. The margin grew at 7 points with twenty minutes gone in the game. Israel increased the tempo in the third quarter. They accounted for 28 points in the frame and got within 6 at three-quarter time. But the USA stayed cold-blooded in the dying moments keeping Israel at safe distance till the final buzzer.
Lazar Hayward (198-F-86) scored 14 points and pulled down 9 boards for the USA. Da’Sean Butler added 13 points, while Talor Battle delivered 12 points in the victory. Elishay Kadir (203-F-87, agency: Avi Zilberman) replied with 28 points and 9 boards for Israel. Gal Mekel had 16 points in defeat.
The United States had a 43:37 advantage on the glass and suffered only 10 turnovers down the stretch. Both teams accounted for 46% of field goals.
USA: Lazar Hayward 14, Da’Sean Butler 13, Talor Battle 12
Israel: Elishay Kadir 28, Gal Mekel 165-6 spot
Lithuania – Turkey 107:87
Lithuania ensured the 5th-spot finish at the World University Games in Serbia. They defeated Turkey today to wrap up quite successful campaign in Belgrade.
Lithuania dominated on the glass in the starting period and built a 23:18 lead at the first intermission. Lithuania shot impressively from the field to deepen the damage. They arrived at halftime leading by 11 points. Turkey could not pick up the slack in the second half. Lithuania stretched the buffer to 16 points with one quarter remaining. Turkey tried to increase the tempo but Lithuania easily matched the effort and fired 32 points in the fourth quarter to seal the winning outcome. Martynas Pocius (196-G-86, agency:Interperformances) scored 16 points to lead Lithuania. Martynas Mazeika added 15 points, while Giedrius Kurtinaitis had 14 points in the win. Eren Beyaz (208-C-85) answered with 27 points for Turkey. Caner Oner had 19 points in the loss.
Lithuania sank impressive 62% from the field limiting Turkey to 48%. Lithuania outrebounded their opponents 35:28 and overcame 20 turnovers.
Lithuania: Martynas Pocius 16, Martynas Mazeika 15, Giedrius Kurtinaitis 14
Turkey: Eren Beyaz 27, Caner Oner 19
7-8 spot
Bulgaria – Germany 77:72
Bulgaria and Germany played their final game at the World University Games in Serbia today. Bulgaria celebrated a difficult win to occupy the 7th overall spot. Chavdar Kostov (196-G-88, agency: Interperformances) knocked down 22 points to lead a Konstantin Papazov team to the victory.
Bulgaria jumped off the blocks to stun Germany early. They limited their opponents to 12 points in the first frame to earn a 9-point lead. Bulgaria continued to dominate in the second frame and ensured an 18-point buffer at halftime. But Germany refused to give in and tried to change the complexion of the game in the second half. Lucca Steiger triggered a comeback effort that saw Germany cut the margin to 7 points at three-quarter time. A Denis Wucherer team worked hard to deny the deficit but Bulgaria used all of their experience to escape with a narrow victory at the end. Asen Velikov netted 15 points for Bulgaria. Lucca Staiger (196-G-88) and Jannik Freese responded with 12 points each for Germany. Lischka netted 11 points in the losing effort. Bulgaria sank 47% from the field limiting Germany to just 37%. Germany had a narrow advantage on the boards 37:35 with both teams committing 13 turnovers.
Bulgaria: Chavdar Kostov 22, Asen Velikov 15, Krum Doychinov 12+14 boards
Germany: Lucca Staiger 12, Jannik Freese 12
9-10 spot
Canada – Finland 88:63
Canada crowned their World University Games campaign with a resounding win. The North American team thumped Finland to earn the 9th overall spot. Ross Bekkering (203-F-85) fired 19 points and pulled down 9 rebounds to pace Canada.
Canada looked better in the starting frame surging in front. A Chris ORourke team outgunned Finland for an 8-point advantage after ten minutes of action. Finland fired back in the second period to keep within striking distance. Ville Makalainen (194-F-85, agency:Pro Partner Sports Management) allowed Finnish team to trail by just 7 points into the main break. Canada and Finland traded baskets throughout the third quarter and Canada were able to take a 9-point lead at three-quarter time. But the intrigue never sparked in the fourth period. Canada overwhelmed their opponents in the final stanza scoring 33 points and cruising to the win.
Joshua Whyte produced 14 points for the winners. Josh Gibson-Bascombe added 10 points for Canada. Ville Makalainenresponded with 20 points for Finland. Jari Vanttaja had 16 points in the loss.
Canada: Ross Bekkering 19, Joshua Whyte 14, Josh Gibson-Bascombe 10
Finland: Ville Makalainen 20, Jari Vanttaja 16
11-12 spot
Ukraine – Latvia 79:76
Ukraine finished their World University Games campaign on a high note. They eked out a tough win over Latvia to claim the 11th overall place. Maksym Pustozvonov knocked down 20 points to lead Ukraine.
Latvia opened the game confidently and grabbed the lead early. Ukraine looked sloppy defensively in the first frame allowing Latvia too many open looks. An Ainars Bagatskis team secured a 30:21 lead after ten minutes. The scoring tempo decreased in the second frame as the teams adjusted their defense. The teams traded baskets and Latvia managed to ensure a 44:35 advantage at halftime. Ukraine finally found their rhythm after the major break. BC Kyiv duo Maksym Pustozvonov and Vyacheslav Kravtsov helped a Valentyn Melnychuk team to trim the deficit by 4 points in the third quarter. Ukraine fired 25 points in the fourth quarter and sneaked past Latvia at the end.
Oleksandr Sizov dropped 15 points for Ukraine. Vyacheslav Kravtsov added 13 points and 7 boards for the winners. Arturs Strelnieks answered with 19 points and 12 boards for Latvia. Oskars Ernsteins and Arturs Berzins had 10 points each in the losing effort.
Ukraine: Maksym Pustozvonov 20, Oleksandr Sizov 15, Vyacheslav Kravtsov 13
Latvia: Arturs Strelnieks 19+12 boards, Oskars Ernsteins 10, Arturs Berzins 10
13-14 spot
Romania – Greece 88:82
Romania finished the World University Games in style. They held off Greece to clinch the 13th spot. Romania looked better in the first half to build a decisive lead. Greece could not overcome the buffer despite dominating the second part of the encounter. Titus Nicoara (200-F-88, agency: Interperformances) tallied 21 points and 10 rebounds for Romania.
A Dan Calancea team earned a 21:17 advantage at the first break. They pushed harder in the second period outscoring Greek opponents. The scoreboard showed 43:29 for Romania at halftime. But Greece came back to life in the second half. They limited Romanian offensive options and started to claw their back into the contest. Greece entered the fourth period down by just 7 points. The teams exploded with 61 points in the final stanza but Romania withheld all the comeback attempts from Greece to eke out a tough win at the end. Andrei Mandache finished with 20 points, 7 boards and 4 assists for Romania. Paul Chetreanu had 17 points in the win. Dimitrios Verginis (194-G-87, agency: FCM) knocked down 24 points for Greece. Georgios Sourlis netted 19 points in the losing case.
Romania: Titus Nicoara 21+10 boards, Andrei Mandache 20, Paul Chetreanu 17
Greece: Dimitrios Verginis 24, Georgios Sourlis 19
15-16 spot
Italy – Portugal 82:67
Italy defeated Portugal in the final game of the World University Games in Serbia. The victory allowed the Azzurri to clinch the 15th spot at the tournament. Portugal grabbed the 16th position after the loss. Roberto Prandin (188-G-86) knocked down 18 points, collected 6 boards and issued 5 assists for the winners. Italy got to the aggressive start as they outscored Portugal 20:12 in the starting stanza. Portugal recovered in the second frame and matched Italy. An Alexandre Pires team got within 7 at halftime. The teams traded baskets in the third quarter as Italy were able to secure a 7-point advantage with one quarter remaining. Portugal could not threaten the margin in the final stanza as Italy ran away to the victory at the end. Riccardo Casagrande notched 13 points for Italy. Simone Ferrarese added 12 points in the win. Marco Pinto (180-G-87) responded with 15 points for Portugal. Fernando Martins had 14 points in the loss.
Portugal outrebounded their opponents 38:34 but shot just 37% from the field in the loss. Italy sank 45% of field goals and forced Portugal to 22 turnovers.
Italy: Roberto Prandin 18, Riccardo Casagrande 13, Simone Ferrarese 12
Portugal: Marco Pinto 15, Fernando Martins 14
17-19 spot
Australia – Brazil 79:78
Australia claimed the 17th spot at the World University Games in Serbia. They held off Brazil in the final game at the tournament. The Aussies trailed by 13 points at halftime and 15 points at the final change. But a Brett Coxsedge team struck back in the final period. They overwhelmed Brazil 27:11 in the fourth stanza to celebrate the victory.
Ben Madgen (193-G-85, college: Augusta St.) dropped 28 points to lead Australia. Carlin Hughes and Ryan Bathie notched 10 points each for the winning team. Andre Goes (195-G/F-87) responded with 24 points, 7 assists and 5 boards for Brazil.
Australia: Ben Madgen 28, Carlin Hughes 10, Ryan Bathie 10
Brazil: Andre Goes 24, Rodrigo Cesar 14
20-22 spot
Mexico – Iran 74:62
Mexico beat Iran on the final day of the World University Game in Belgrade. The victory allowed Mexico to clinch the 20th spot at the tournament. Iran finished in the 21st position. Julio Cesar Martin del Campo (195-G/F-88) knocked down 22 points to lift Mexico to the win. Joaquin Villanueva added 14 points and 11 caroms in the win. Mexico built an 8-point advantage at halftime and maintained it well throughout the second half.
Mohammad Reza Akbari (197-F/G-86) responded with 18 points and 6 boards for Iran. Ali Baheran had 12 points in defeat.
Mexico: Julio Cesar Martin del Campo 22, Joaquin Villanueva 14+11 boards, Joel Reynoso 12
Iran: Mohammad Reza Akbari 18, Ali Baheran 12
23-25 spot
China – South Africa 106:70
China completed their World University Games campaign. They defeated South Africa in the final day of the tournament to clinch the 23rd overall spot. South Africa remained at the bottom of the ladder winless. ZHANG Chunjun (198-C-87) fired 33 points and ripped off 9 boards to lead the Asian team. China did not waste too much time to stamp their authority. They poured in 34 points in the opening frame to account for 15-point lead. The onslaught continued in the second stanza as China cleared off to a 24-point distance at halftime. South Africa had not a single chance in the third quarter as China scored eagerly. A Yonglin Guo side managed 35 points in the period to pile up an unassailable 42-point advantage with ten minutes remaining. South Africa showed character as they did not say die and fought till the final buzzer. They won the fourth term by 6 points but finished the tournament with no victories posted. Ma Yi had 25 points for China. Zhang ZhaoXu contributed 21 points and 22 rebounds for the winning team. Celemusa Khumalo (193-G-88) responded with 20 points for South Africa. Makgotla Modisaesi canned 14 points in defeat.
China: ZHANG Chunjun 33, Ma Yi 25, Zhang ZhaoXu 21+22 boards
South Africa: Celemusa Khumalo 20, Makgotla Modisaesi 14
Source Eurobasket.com
Unlucky boys, I hope that your defeats will not be in vain and that the next group learns from your experiences… Well done for making the journey and representing South Africa…
Hey every1 i believe that if the boys had enough time to prepare they cud have cum out in the top 15. As u cud see with the results they were getting better in scoring as the tournament progresses. Enough time would have given them time to prepare their defense coz clearly the other teams were scoring at will. So Ussa next time dnt send a team to go on holiday, they must go to compete. I hope ussa learned sumthing frm this and also take the girls next time, stop making excuses that they were under performing in the past so as the guys mara u will see them go again even if they came last at this tournament. Peace and have a blessed thinking of what u want basketball in this country to look like in the future.
Questions?
Since we claim that our team failed because of lack of preparedness, how much time did the other teams have to prepare for the tournament?
Does losing by more than 30points for the 23th position constitute an improvement?
Is there going to be a report on the trip and is there going to be a plan going forward?
More importantly, who is going to hold the adminstrators accountable to do things right next time?
Joe
I do not agree with your new way that you seem to engage by asking questions and the ‘class’ answering but I will TRY answering some of your questions.
1)If you look at Lucky’s comment he mentions but 1 of the possible reasons that may have cause the team losing all its games.If you look deeper in the comment you will realise that he touches on other points of which 1 that I pick is the non-organisation of USSA.Since we want to be world beaters I wil compare the preparation of the Serbian team to ours.One aspect of the preparation for any tournament woud be the selection of the Coach.Serbia selected theirs last year July.I will not go into every other detail.We selected ours this year af the USSA tournament.
2) Yes.The team improved on their performance as the tournament went on.So for me that constitutes an improvement
3)All coaches and managers are supposed to submit report to USSA basketball.Ironically the Manager of the team was the chairperson of USSA Basketball so his recomendations should be taken seriously by him and his commitee.I hope that a plan is in place
4)USSA institutionsand BasketballSA should ensure that USSA basketball is accountable.
For the record I agree with lucky’s point and dont wish to repeat them.What are you thinking,if I may ask?
I think the experience was valuable to the boys, South Afirca has gone far too long without competing with the rest of the world, can we try en reflect on the positives and also work on our weaknesses to improve our out look on Basketball, the exposure is good for our country’s basketball as well as our players.
Kim
What I am trying to get is that the preparation for these games does not begin with the selection of the squad as we seem to think. For me preparation begins with making sure that players who play at tertiary level are ready to play at this level.
If we remember well leading up to the USSA tournament we were debating whether UJ will win or not, considering their loss the previous year against a transforming and depleted VAAL. We all agreed that even with the talent and hours of preparation, UJ did not have enough BIG MATCH TEMPARENT
Kim
What I am trying to get at is that the preparation for these games does not begin with the selection of the squad as we seem to think. For me preparation begins with making sure that players who play at tertiary level are ready to play at this level.
If we remember well, leading up to the USSA tournament we were debating whether UJ men will win or not, considering their loss the previous year against a transforming and depleted VAAL. We all agreed that even with the talent and hours of preparation, UJ did not have enough BIG MATCH TEMPARENT. Roll over to this year, UJ had players who have been there the year before and some that have been there many times eg Thabo and Thabang.
Therefore, UJ won the USSA tourney NOT because they had more time to prepare, but because they had more experience of playing at a certain level.
SIMPLY PUT, until USSA and BSA takes an interest in school basketball our players will never be ready to compete at this level.
SECONDLY, the manager’s report will NEVER be enough to solve our problems, in addition to this report we also need a TECHNICAL report and a players report. As you can see this method uses TRIANGULATION which any researcher worth his salt wil tell you is very critical to understanding a problem.
For me the technical report is even more important that the manager’s report in that it tells us what our players, team and coaches lacked. In an Intergrared Development model, the technical report will also be used to inform high school basketball to ensure that players are ready for this level.
Unless I have been living under a stone I have never seen a comprehensive technical report from USSA, all that we get is observations on this website.
BASICALLY, A PROPER COACHES COMMISSION
Definition of success or improvement, be at a state(Current state) better than your initial state(Base-benchmark). Initial state Bangkok 2007 (universiades), current state Serbia 2009. Winless in both occassions(double digit loses), stats simmilar in both occaions (outrebounded, outplayed, outsmarted and outcoached). Alarm bells ringing!! ppl should stop saying that there is development and that the team improoved as tourney went on, for there is no improvement. For christ sake the last game was a competition for the final spot. Point to note whatever changes implemented (if theres any ) from 2007 universiades and the current werent enough or never changed our position. This means without change in the nxt competitions we will achieve simmilar results.
I support the motion for change, in adopting a well though out model (im not an expert in this, but it dont take a genius to see we need change).
Im patrified by the fact that ppl are content with failure and seem to call it improvement, there was no improvement in serbia.
I believe in order for one to get better and also be able to gage themselves in whatever they do, they need a benchmark/base to refer to. What is our reference when we say we are improoving. If u use a 40pt loss game to a 30pt loss game and u want to deam that improvement fine.
Joe and Tifo
On a point of principe,I AGREE with both of you FULLY.No ifs or buts on that one.
The soutions and points that you bring are spot on.I however dont understand what improvement you want when as correctly put resources are not provided for the team to go a perform.I for one will judge the performance based on what resources they were given.I will take into consideration of the new approach that FISU has taken and compare it to the first years in which we were competing at FISU level and will make my judgement.This goes to say,when Neo,Q,Sgubhu,Linda,Brandon,Vincent etc first went to the World Student games they struggled.They struggled to score 50 points.They hardly couldnt get the ball over the half way line.As time went on,they got better and by 2005 we won games and lost in single digits.
Come 2007,FISU has an age restriction and thus we start again from the beginning.USSA had to now come with a plan wherein the players of 24 and under are choosen to go and play at that high level.No tertiary league,no proper camps,few player database to chose from etc.So do you compare this team with the 2005 team and my answer is no.You can only compare similar states.Bangkok and Serbia.Prior 2005,Coach Kita had been to all the FISU games and thus had an understanding of the issues to expect.Coach Q and Molupe didnt.It took 3 world student games for SA to show an significant improvement at those games.We lost 4 games within single digits and this was based on the formula of being there and done that.Thabang,Tuka,Brandon,Fumani,Nakedi,Cyril etc had been exposed to that scenario or similar scenario.
Now come to this team and make the comparison when we attended the games when we were first starting in 1999.You will find that this team performed better than that class because the SITUATIONS are the same.I am not trying to protecting anyone.I will agree that USSA are doing zero for the development of the game and dont know if anyone said there is development but who do you blame.Not players nor coaches.
These technical reports are only good when recommendations are scrutinised and implemented.I still remember the TECHNICAL report myself and Coach Kita submitted after the 2005 games.How many have been impemented.Zero.I remember the TECHNICAL report I submitted in 2006 after getting silver at the FASU games.How many have been implemented?Zero.Now what happens?
What do the coaches and players do?What good will that technical report achieve when it wont be implemented?We will continuosly blame and blame and criticise but still no action.
Kim
Hence my assertion that WE lack militancy.
We are all too happy to avail ourselves to participate in this SCAMS and offer praises to players and coaches for JOB WELL DONE. It is time that players, coaches, technical officials and supporters start realising that WE need to police the administrators.
The ACTION that we are looking starts with US holding the administrators accountable, until this is achieved administrators will forever get away with murder.
For instance, if Technical reports have been submitted and never discussed or implemented, then coaches and players must BOYCOTT. Unfortunately we all know what happens when one coach or player takes a stand, VICTIMISATION. And we all know what the rest of the coaches or players say “BETTER YOU THAN ME BRO.”
It is my observation that bball is full of two-faced cowards who are looking out for themselves, they cheer you on in private then turn their backs on you the moment an opportunity is dangled in front of their eyes.
Until players and coaches form associations or unions, administrators will remain the drivers and traffic officers.
Joe
You arwe so right. We need to take a stand! Basketball is going nowhere slowly. We are continually making the same mistakes of blaming one another instead of taking responsibility.
I played in the USSA games. I played for UWC. I darn played my heart out. Posting 20 point outings and collecting more than 10 rebounds a game against UJ and VAAL. I was not the primary scorer in my team but I played my role, by doing the dirty work and making plays for my teammates.
Unfortunately I did not make the National team. I was upset because I wanted a chance to prove myself. I wanted to make the squad and show the coaching staff that I deserved a spot on the National team. I couldn’t understand why they (whoever the selectors were?) chose so many guards!! The average height of the team was 6 foot. That is a major problem if you going to face international opposition coz height matters. We got beat in the paint where teams averaged 46 points and our rebounding was not great. I was impressed with a few players that performed well and gained good experience.
It was not my time to make it, but I think more players should have a chance to make the cut, instead of 15 hand chosen players. Some of whom just rode on a good collegiate program and was not really tested against other deserving players. The selection process should be better. We need proper scouting of talent. And teams should be selected properly, not the top twelves scorers in the tournament! People tell me to focus on Universiade China in 2011, but who says we will qualify for the tournament that year? I sure hope we do!
All in all I believe the gents did all they could do with what they were given! We desperately need a Collegiate Basketball League because the USSA tourney is not enough.
Joe
So that makes us hypocrets then cos we cant even organise ourselves as coaches,players etc but we want BSA,USSA to be organised.
We need to look at situations and remedy the bad occurances. I dont think anybody nsubmitts any reports or reports are submitted but they are not implemented. I have been in the national team setup for 10 years and that is scary because nothing has come of it, administration wise.
Have we realised that South Africa always show signes of improvement in the latter part of the tournaments? Why is that?
1. Players go into camp too late and they are expected to perform miracles.
2. Players poeak too late in the tournament. We only get game fit 4 games into the tournament. The sinior national at all major competitions we always start adjusting to the level of the game when we fighting for 13/14th place. Same as the world student games. Im sure players like Tshepo and Nhlanhla feel like “now the tournament is starting” its too late.
All these are due to previous technical officials not giving true reflection of the situation or the administrators, USSA and BSA not knowing how to handle the proposals. Anybody who can do a layup knows that we need to prepare in time for these kind of events but the top people are always dragging their feet complaining about money issues while we know 3 years in advance about the tournament.
The senior national team is going to Lybia, what preparations have they had thus far? Are the players active? Does the administration know how many players are injured or are still playing bamsketball? We expect these boys to go and compete with NBA players from Nigeria and players from Cote de’Voire who play in the spanish league.
We all know the answers to our problems but it seems like the powers that be dont know how to impliment solutions. We all know that we need money for certain things but what are we doing to make sure that the next group of players going to the WSG in Three years time don get the same problems. Players have reached a point in their lives where they refuse to look like school kids when they get to tournaments. We shall see how many of the players that played in Moz two months ago will be going to Lybia.
We need to see those reports and scrutinize them,
Kim
My point exactly, it is time we stop asking what the administrators can do for us but rather what we can do to make them listen.
Players and coaches do not have a voice in bball structures. As the main stakeholders of bball it is critical that they are organised in order to influence planning and implementation.
Neo
The World Student games are every two years. It is scheduled for Shenzhen, China in 2011. The southern China city, located near Hong Kong, is a busy port and one of the fastest growing cities in the world.
Neo
As Captain of the Senior National I think that the Moz report should also have been provided to yourself.I dont think it would be proper for us to discuss it at this platform but maybe interact with BSA for them to give you a copy of that report.This gives BSA a good understanding of what challenges and ways of addressing some of those challenges.It has reports on player fitness reports that were conducted etc.Now the issue should have been how to address the issues raised in that report before the next camp.
This report would effectively ensure that the positives and negatives of the camp,tournament,fitness etc are addressed before the team jets of to Libya.It is key that we start preparing stratigically for ALL international tournaments.We know who is in our pool and we know which group we shall be in if we come top 3 in our pool.That information should be in the hands of the technical team and they should select the best possible team based on information gathered.
Jabez
Keep giving your best and I hope for your sake and the sport,we do get an opportunity to once again go and compete.I feel that USSA needs to have a plan.We dont have to camp only when we are having a tounament.USSA needs to seriously se how we improve the sport.We cant all be administrators as coaches,players etc are needed but I feel that we are going nowhere due to people just wanting positions to travel the world.The problem is we will wait 1 year to see how farUSSA basketball have gone in increasing the sport at a tertiary level and thats aabsolute nonsense.KEEP playing and the rest will follow in your quest to make SA.
Joe
Coaches seem not being serious about their voices be heard,thats my observation.