Pro Sport pulls out of GBL 2010
With the prospect of playoffs looming large for some of the teams in the Gauteng Basketball League (GBL), basketball in Gauteng has suffered another major blow with the decision by Pro Sports Consulting to pull out of the 2010 edition due to the reason listed below.
Pro Sports Consulting have been running the 2009 edition of the GBL on a skeleton budget and gave ballers in the province and outside a taste of what they could do if given the proper funding and support. Like any organisation there might have been some ups and downs but the games were played and there was excitement around the different divisions with some competitive games throughout the year. It is disappointing that we keep suffering these major blows to a sport that is so simple to administer and much harder to play.
I have attached the letter sent by Pro Sport Consulting to the various team managers in the league. Let’s hope that there is light at the end of this never ending tunnel we call “basketball in South Africa”.
To Pro Sports Consulting and those involved in making GBL 2009 the success story it has been so far, thank you for the wetting our taste buds and lets hope we get the full meal from the powers that be very soon. Let’s go out there and support the teams that qualify for the playoffs and give the 2009 edition the proper sendoff.
Letter to Managers:
“GBL Teams Managers
We trust this finds you well.
The following is a basic report of GBL (www.gbl.co.za) for 2009. Also contained herein is commentary by Pro Sports as well as decisions for next year. TEAMS
(please note that 2007 and 2008 Pro Sports structures have been added just as a comparison)
2007
Men: 6 (1 Division)
Women: 4 (1 Division)
No of games
Men: 15 (regular) 3 (playoff)
Women 6 (regular) 3 (playoff)
2008
Men: 14 (2 Division)
Women: 6 (1 Division)
(110% growth)
No. of Games
Men: 84 (regular) 6 (playoff)
Women: 30 (regular) 3 (playoff)
2009
Men: 34 (4 divisions)
Women 15 (2 divisions)
(133% growth)
Regional Breakdown
City of Johannesburg – Central: 50%
City of Johannesburg – Soweto: 10%
Tshwane: 24%
Vaal: 10%
Ekurhuleni: 2%
Free State: 2%
Mpumalanga: 2%
Club Type Breakdown:
Sports Clubs 54%, Institutions 43%, Companies 1%
No of Games
Men: 258 (regular) 12 (playoff)
Women: 98 (regular) 6 (playoff)
PLAYERS
Gender
Male: 510
Female: 225
Age Analysis
O-17: 14
18-21: 134
22-25: 191
26-29: 181
30-33: 46
34+:10
Race: Black 89%, White 8%, Coloured 2%, Asian 1%
VENUES
Wits University (2 Courts) – 246 games
University of Pretoria (2 Courts) – 58 games
Vaal (1 Court) – 3 Games (30 planned)
Grace Bible (1 Court) – 102 (63 planned)
Match Allocation Regional Breakdown
City of Johannesburg: 73%
Tshwane:14%
Vaal: 1%
Venue Cost Analysis (100% Match allocation)
Wits University: R34,000
University of Pretoria R145,000
Vaal: R305,000
Grace Bible: R0
Notes:
1. Venue allocation was based on cost and the number of games that could be accommodated – On that analysis Wits proved to be best location because of its ability to host many games at low cost even though Grace Bible was best cost option.
2. Vaal venue
Despite costs several games were allocated to Vaal which were cancelled or postponed several times due to venue readiness and availability
3. For the most part relationship with venue owners has been good with few cancellations or disruption during the year
Calendar
8 Mar – 30 May + 20 July – 10 Oct
Notes:
(A) Fixture Integrity (Overall: Poor)
1. Failure of institutions and clubs to submit their calendars – only 1 club (University of Johannesburg) completed full analysis of calendar prior to season commencing.
2. Compromised due to failure of BSA and GBA to communicate national or provincial call-ups.
3. Administration failures contributed to several incidences which compromised integrity
General
1. Institutions not available to play from Jan to March, throughout May June and July and into mid October because of holidays and exams.
2. Teams outside of Gauteng unable to play mid-week due to travel requirements.
FUNDING
Fees: R5500 (2006 Metro League R6500)
Highlights (lowlights)
October 2009
Pro Sports secures R1.2 million funding for GBL (to be allocated to GBA)
Feb 2009
Dept of Sports cancels R1.2million grant to GBL due to Gauteng Basketball Association’s lack of financial documentation
May 2009
Pro Sports secures R500,000 funding for GBL (to be allocated via GBA or BSA)
June 2000
BSA unable to assist due to lack of financial documentation
July 2009
Dept of Sports cancels grant due to GBA and BSA lack of financial documentation
September 2009
Dept of Sports issues letter declining any support to basketball for foreseeable future.
OFFICIALS
With matches still to be played no analysis is given.
GAUTENG BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION
1. Involvement and interaction with GBA has been poor
2. All requirements of GBA with regards GBL have not been met.
PR0 SPORTS CONSULTING COMMENTARY
Analysis of the league and basketball in general shows that the game has grown in Gauteng since our initial involvement in 2007. We believe that has been the case due to improved management of league structures.
The game however is hampered by management at strategic level where the association is involved. In short without sound management at those levels we believe that commitment at lower level (such as league) will always be compromised.
Unfortunately blame for these short comings can only be leveled against ourselves, the coaches, players and club administrators that all profess to love the game. In truth the associations from local to regional and finally national all claim to represent the above mentioned stakeholders. And yet the very membership that is represented plays no part in ensuring that they are appropriately represented. Our country comes from a rich history of activism where people have fought for what they believed they deserved. With that historical background the current culture of entitlement within basketball remains disappointing. Perplexing even. In South Africa those who love basketball must fight for it, for it to truly grow.
Our fight continues.
Pro Sports Consulting is pulling out of the Gauteng Basketball League immediately after the close of GBL 2009.
To the teams still involved in playoff contention good luck to you all.
Regards,
Tshiamo Ngakane
General Manager”
Article by Victor Shakineza with insert from Tshiamo Ngakane
This is sad news as it appears as if some growth was taking place. Well done to prosports for their effort if the numbers correct it means a job well done.
Leadership at all levels across all sports codes is an area where we are really lacking.
well, there we go again. with all the promises made by government and the other sponsors and we are let down by few individuals. anyway,we going to go back and forth with this issue and never get to a solution. i think as is said in the article, players, coaches and supporters are letting themselves down.
very bad to hear that the govt could not help in terms of sponsorship but we need to look into their reasons just beyond them refusing to help.govt needs representative structures in terms of the land demographies, accountability for moneys sponsored.
if all the above is not the order of the year thing in the structures, you can forget to get assisted by govt and other corporate businesses.
get the structures in order and the people who can run finances of the leagues and associations correctly. it is not only you on basketball, but even netball, soccer (esp. in regional associations and leagues) are suffering from the same sickness as yours(not being sponsored correctly).
Benny
if you read the article again, governement had put aside R1.2m to sponsor GBL. what needed to happen was for GBA the controlling body to furnish their annual financial statements so that they can get the money. now the bvery same people who claim not to get sponsors GBA in these instance could not provide such to get the money.
now these raises some very curion questions:
Why can’t GBL provide financial statements?
Does that mean there is money that cannot be accounted for?
What is the GBA executive hiding in those books?
What are we doing as the bball community to ensure that we also get the financials?
Why doesn’t GBA provide the financials to regional strucures?
Who is accountable to ensure that we have financials?
Then after that my questions will be:
Do other provincial structures have financials?
Aren’t the provincial structures supposed to submit their financials to BSA every year?
What is BSA doing to ensure that they get the financials?
then, as long as we don’t have financials, we will never get a sponsorship from any company. before we blame companies and government lets fix our own mess.
To second what baller has said, its not that there is no money available from government in particular, but that there are not proper structures in place for the government to give money to.
They (the government) will not give money to private individuals, they will however give something to representative bodies at provincial, district or municipal level. This entails, having the correct non-profit structure set up, whether it be a voluntary non-profit or section 21 company. Further this means that the NPO is registered with the department of social welfare and has all the relevant documentation from SARS and with SARS.
This all takes time, and cannot be done overnight. To give you an example getting registered as a section 21 takes time as you have to get a cipro document which can take months.
In regards to financial statements, it is the responsibility of every NPO to provide a set of financials that is available to whole assembly at the AGM. This takes money produce, so where does the money come from to do this if, as an organization, you have just started. Its like putting the horse before the cart, but thats the reality of the matter. As a matter of corporate governance, however, this is a necessity.
They will however assist any providing equipment eg balls, whistles, scorebaords etc if a proper league proposal is presented to SportsandRec. They are actually quite helpful if you follow up with them and present everything to them in due time as is most things involving government.
As a treasurer for one of the basketball districts these are the issues that we have dealt with and continue to struggle with.
Zeke
If their cant provide financial audited report the government n other stakeholders cant be assisted.i agree we need to put our house in order.
baller
Long time since I entered the site and I see that the talking is still the order of the day….see you soon.
lol
Theo, there’s no way u can ficks that house, its been running like a tender or a family business, they all friends, when they say national team, every1 is there to get his share. but will ficks that house.
we have given the BSA 10years to ficks that house or to bring back the love of the game, till 2day, some1 will explain to us 1day, n we need the explanation to the team that was kicked out n also the explanation to the current 1, it sems they all doing the same job.
we have the national office, that doen’t have a telephone, they run that office with their cell phone only for the national players.
its so said.
Very interesting comments I must say. Still good to see that people are still interested in this game that we all love. This comment elaborates what my take is of where basketball is and where it needs to go (please note that I am writing this in my personal capacity). I have been involved in bball for many years and since Metro days, a very well respected person told me that we are fixing the wrong things in basketball, something i would like to believe is being shared by readers of this blog. At the time, my excitiment around baskebtall was so great that we chose to ignore the point made by this person. We went on talking about how great LOP and later GBL was going to be, but we achieved nothing more than what metro did back in the days, which from a bigger picture perspective, is really nothing. A lot of people have commented on this blog but what has lacked throughout most of the comments was SO WHAT, as in their initiatives to fix the current status. I am hoping that by the time you finish reading my comments, you will be inspired once again to make a change.
This is the current status of basketball based on my personal experiences. Hope fully for those who agree with me, can use it as the basis of the way forward:
1. There is a miscoception that basketball big in SA – I do not believe this, i actually think it barely exists right now. We should just forget about its growth in the 90’s, things have changed, basically Hip Hop took over the excitement from basketball.
2. Kids do not necesarily see bball to be cool any longer, they would rather dance, rap or sing than play ball
3. Armeture league, national league or PRO league will not get basketball growth going again. It will be just a waste of money which will result in a slow death due to lack of spectators
4. Our national teams will continue to be embarrased at international tournament and no brand would want to be associated with losers
5. Even if there was TV for bball, i wonder how many people will actually get to watch it
6. Sponsors? What sponsors, they run a business and not a social responsibility and right now, basketball cannot add any value to any brand.
7. Structures – i hope there are still people out there who are still willing to invest their time and money to get bball going again.
My comments may sound like i am grumpy old man, but its the truth and the above will not change until there is a change in people’s way of thinking. Until such time that each person who claims they love the sport sacrifieses their lives to impart their basketball knowledge to some primary school kids with a 5 year plan in mind, then we are all wasting our time. Its very easy to blame BSA/GBA/GBL or whoever, but unless there is that level of commitment at ground level, everything else will just be all talk. Put the person you think deserves to be in these organisations and see if they can do any better without your commitment. If people are committed to get going at grassroot level, they will be committed enough to get to meetings on time and contribute at meetings and implementation level. Once this is going, naturally, a committee will emerge and in that committee, a representative will be asked to go represent that committee at a high level and so on it goes. This is how strong and really committed regional and provincial associations will be born.
Now, just so that i also dont sound like one of those people who just come to this site to talk with no action, this is what i am willing to do with everyone’s help and comittment.
1. I will organise and provide venues for meetings for free – this will only happen if we have a minimum of 100 people (present or represented at meetings) who can comitt to be involved in basketball at primary school level
2. Hopefully with the help of Joseph Mangadi, we can follow the consitution to form a legitimate GBA
3. I will get a strategic consultant to help us put together a 5 year plan that will help the organisation raise money to cover the costs of those involved at primary levels of basketball be it as a ref, admin, coach etc
4. With the guidance of the association, we will get help from other local or international organisations be it in kind or cash
The majority of sports in SA are suffering from the same disease i.e. lack of junior sports simply because everyone is only interested in senior sports whilst, ironically, social reponsibility funds are generally focused on junior sports. My believe is that basketball is beyond repair as it is. If everyone gave up their passion of playing and directed it to juniors all at the same time, I think south africa will win its first international big game 5 years from now and perhaps be the African Champs 5 years later qualifying them into the Olympics for the first time ever. With many kids playing and national team winning and going to the Olympics, it will make sense for sponsors to be involved then. Do things right or dont do it at all.
If you were looking on the way forward, this is what i beleive is the way forward. So before you pass on the blame, first have a go at yourself and then only after can you look else where.
Cabby
Thats what I am talking about…less talk and more action.
CUT was in Lesotho this past weekend and we met with our ‘brother’ team from bloem which had a look at the state of basketball in Bloemfontein and Free State as a whole.We have thus agreed to have a stakeholders meeting on the 31 October2009.This will to ensure that all relevant ballers,administrators,clubs,coaches,refs,schools etc are able to make the meeting.
The meeting will be discussing all issues pertaining to basketball,including but not limited to:
1)School league
2)Senior League
3)Formation of district interim-association
4)Role of interim committe (Working committe)
5)Time Frames for implementation
We will come back to this forum and inform you as to how far we are in this project.Alot of wok will be done in the next 2 weeks ensuring we do get all ballers in one roof to fix the state of basketball in our district and then in our province.
Less talking more doing.
EUREKA!
Anyone in Gauteng who is prepared and committed to advance the examplary cause of FS and the wise words of Cabby holler at me I am always willing and ready to assist.
well Cabby, i agree with u, we have people who have a passion in the game n people who never give up in this game, who r still working with development, i think we as people we need answers from the past and the current team in BSA, we can not continue anymore with this problem, people wants to make quick money. we just sick and tired of those people, we don’t trust no 1 anymore, people are promoting soccer n they just can’t wait for the world cup, people r tired of that, we have bball player who now playing soccer n rugby….
i think people deserve all the answers. trust me,we can not work or start something new while those people are still in the national office doing nothing.
1. we have paople who are developing soccer, but they have position in basketball office, when they say national team is going to play somewhere they there, we don’t neeed those people cos they just steeling from us.
2. we have people who don’t know anything about the game of basketball who are also there because of their friend.
3. we need a progress report since they started working in that office.
we love the game n we are not going to give up because of bad people, trust me this time we are going to take action on those people be for the end of november, we should get all the answers that we deserve.
In the township we have the ward consel that we are work with under sports an rec. we can’t move forward because they don’t c a progress in the national level, thats why they don’t take basketbal serious n also we tryed so many times to call BSA office, just to get the coaching manual and ref manuals and players hand book and aslo to know our basketball office. we are working with primary school, churches High school, parents and local team, just to take the game far.
please people advice us what to do, because we just sick and tired of this game of the poeple who are liers.
Good comments from everyone, when society of stakeholders stop raising issues then there will be no progress. We must appreciate though that it is easy to point out mistakes, easier to find a solution , but very difficult to implement that solution.
5 year plans, consultants and all are great, they will produce beautiful documents with carefully worded colourful language that will look great in their presentation folders. What South African basketball needs are “soldiers”, guys that are willing to go out in the sun and coach, give up time to administer the sport, and have the character and decency to appreciate there are there for the future of the sport and not for self gratification. This is tough.
I have few questions for Pro sport. I commend the work they have done but would ask of them to provide certain information:
a) How much did they actually spend on GBL?
b) How did they assist and did they have a contract with GBL?
c) Do they believe it was value for money??
On basketball being a dying sport, that can never be further from the truth. Unfortunately, and it is quite understable, we only comment from our personal and sometimes limited exposure. There are some growth areas, but we can not see them or quantify them because there are no structures to do so.
I always wonder when a National team is selected how they can come up with a team. The National team coaches are placed under so much pressure about team selection but have we given them the tools and the opportunity to run proper trials. Tell me ,perhaps there is 2m tall, handsomely athletic boy or girl of about 16 years old in Zeerust, how can the National team coach know about him.her and develop that talent for our beautiful 5 year plan.
What we fail to understand is when a National team fails , we all have failed. Everyone who calls themselves a coach or player has a direct responsibility to ensure the success of the National Team. The national team technical department are picking players that are coming form clubs/schools and these have coaches. We must understand that if that player cannot perform at his club/school , they can not miraculously do so at National Team. The work is done at the club or the school. If there are no coaches in junior structures then we will not have the through put to national team.
Finally, the use of resources. It is a given fact that no matter how much money is poured into sport, or anything for that matter, with out a proper plan, it will go to waste.I would like to think BSA and its affiliates have strategic meetings and have these plans. If they do, then not enough has been done to articulate this plan and get buy in from the stakeholders. There seems to be lack of coherence and understanding of the goals and objectives of GBL or BSA for that matter. If there is no plan, then we are in deep shit, for lack of a better word.
Secondly, utilisation of resources. South Africa is a rainbow nation, with many people who have settled in this country from all over the world. Among them are good coaches who come from countries that have good bball structures . Should we not harness this resource and put it to use? This is while BSA runs its development program for local coaches running clinics . Same applies for referees. We have some of the best facilities in the SADCC region, but are they fully utilised?/ I see most now have indoor soccer or host ball room dancing.
Obviously checks and balances need to be put in place for the administration of the sport.One does not necessarily need ex-ball to run BSA or provincial structures. Essential skills are required eg management acumen, marketing and strategic planning skills. If we find a person like that , and they happen to have played or participated in the sport , then it is a bonus. World over some of the best pro teams, associations are run by people with little or no playing experience of the sport. It would interesting to google the NBA commisioner and see his resume.
I think we all agree there is work to be done, but we have not agreed on who is going to do the work. Letters,acronyms BSAGBL, don’t do the work People do. I sign of with this ” it is only a fool, who does the same thing twice ,in the same manner, and expects different results.”
Guru
You said quite a mouthful, so what are you going to do about the situation?
Just as I thought we were making progress Job and Guru spoil my mood by complaining about what SHOULD BE.
As a self appointed CHAIR of this forum, Kim and Cabby gave us a practical and an inspirational direction. I therefore declare as OUT OF ORDER all further comments that do not speak to WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO rather than add more complains?
To guide the process, WE must all ensure that there are properly constituted District Associations in our areas, then WE must ensure that there are properly constituted Provincial Associations. Only THEN can we call on BSA to account.
Lebatha, no one will listen or give you any information unless you ask the questions through the right channels, you want to complain or need answers, BSA is answerable to the Provinicial association whose responsibility is to disemminate info down to the regions and then clubs. If you feel you really want your Q’s answered, then be part of making the structures work. Joseph did say that he can help with this process. This would be my last comment until there is a structure that can talk to BSA directly, whcih would be GBA. So people must learn quickly here, unless you are part of some structure, no one will speak to you. First thing to do is to get into the structure so start working on that if you really want to save bball. Stop blaming BSA or GBA because you are the structure so if any of them are dysfunct, that means you are dysfunct yourself.
JOE AND I SAID THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME. SO PLEASE PEOPLE, LET JOE GUIDE TO YOUR ANSWERS AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE
Agreeing, with most comments.
To maybe sum it up… Don’t let what you can’t do stop you from doing what you can do. Courtesy of my bud LA.
Guru said it best so far
“What South African basketball needs are “soldiers”, guys that are willing to go out in the sun and coach, give up time to administer the sport. ”
to add to this is capable leadership at every level. At district level, provincial level and national level. Tying this to my quote at the top, where you’re at make a difference, get involved. If you can organise your ward into a proper team, heck go for it. Show initiative, show leadership, show responsibility. Its a entitlement mindset where we look to the hand above for guidance where we can create change with a bit of focus, motivation and belief where we at.
This for me is the rub, there is no money to be made in basketball yet so its down to people serving in the communities, wards, municipalities, districts, provinces and nationally. Give up their time and effort to give.
I tell you what inspires me, it seeing 11-12 year olds playing bb without shoes on the hot concrete, but they wanna play, they’re hungry for someone to show them the way. To show them attention, to show them belonging, to teach them about life, to teach them about team.
Its seeing children travel 100 kms to come to a bb clinic because, and they are not there because they are kitted out in the lasted Lebrons, someone took the time and effort to get them there.
It seeing a small child bounce a basketball on the side of the road, because man he just loves this game. That gives me hope, it makes me care, it makes me wanna get out there and do something, not just shout at the incompetence above.
BB’s problems are huge at nationally, but what about where you live? So what am I saying?
You be the change that you want to see – Mahatma Ghandi
Response to what I am going to do? I am prepared to be a” soldier” for bball. I am out there in the sun preparing the future players of this country.
It is all good saying let us get involved , but in what capacity, where and how?I think we have quite a good number of people that want to assist but don’t know how.
May someone enlighten me on who/what consitutes a district and whether one can just call a meeting and say they are executive? There is need for direction here otherwise all the effort will go to waste again.
Is there a set way of instituting a committee for a district??Perhaps there is a blue print out there or others that have functional committees, please step forward and SHARE your knowledge and experience.
Without “flogging a dead horse”, perhaps BSA may offer direction, again I stress DIRECTION, as to how they would the process to be done. That way we can have uniformity and an integrated structures up to provincial and national level.
Is there synergy between, for example GBL and GSCBC( club and schools)?
HELP!!!
Joe,
My apologies if my comments seem like complaints. We need to take stock of what is happening for us to formulate the way forward, otherwise we will elect another executive that will also fall into the same pitfalls.
Please assist me and other readers I am sure, how does one join a district committee or GBA for that matter?
That is the way forward, educating the stakeholders by giving pertinent information.
Guru
For us to move forward we first need to understand HOW sport worldwide and locally is organised, which I have explained numerous times in this forum. Firstly we need to understand that sport in South Africa is membership based. Therefore a club or association must have members before it can exist and have a say and as an individual must also be registered as a member before one can have a say.
STEP 1 INDIVIDUAL REGISTRATION
For you to be recognised as a player/coach/adminstrator you need to be registered with a community or institution club eg Raptors and Wits.
If a club does not exist you then need to form a club.
STEP 2 CLUB FORMULATION
For Club to be recognised it must have a constitution, registered members and a management structure. The club must then affiliate to the relevant association eg USSA for tertiaries, District association for community clubs.
STEP 3 DISTRICT ASSOCIATION
For Distict association to exist it must have a constitution, registered members and a management structure. The District association must then affiliate to the relevant Provincial association eg GBA, LBA.
STEP 4 PROVINCIAL ASSOCIATION/USSA
For Provincial association to exist it must have a constitution, registered members and a management structure. The Provincial association must then affiliate to the national body ie BSA.
STEP 5 BSA
For BSA to exist it must have a constitution, registered members and a management structure. BSA must then affiliate to SASCOC and FIBA.
Unfortunately this goverencance structure is organised pyramidically and therefore protocol plays a major role in grievance and dispute resolution. Meaning if as an individual I am not happy with BSA I need to first raise the issue with my club, the club as a member of the district association then table the matter at district level.
The district then tables the issue with the provinical association, who as the member of BSA can address it with BSA. It is only after you have followed this protocol without success that one can ask SASCOC and FIBA to intervene.
Therefore it is only BSA members, ie Provincial association, USSA, Schools, Disable, who can call the BSA executive and administrators into order.
@ Joe,
Therefore it is only BSA members, ie Provincial association, USSA, Schools, Disable, who can call the BSA executive and administrators into order.
Go try and tell the president of the country that he’s failing his job and must resign. I mean you could get somewhere, but it would require lots of time, money and effort and besides he is legally elected. Just as a sidenote. BSA is not part of government, it is a NGO with its own constitution and rules which makes it even more difficult to challenge. Its donors, sponsors who can call into account. One did, and we’ve never had an IPT since.
@Guru, walking with you on this.
I’ll let you know how it works/working in our district. I would imagine that within every district where basketball is played there are those that are seen as the organisers. Key individuals who always know what’s going on. Get to know them. If you have a school league operating, there is someone pulling the strings organising fixtures. These things do not happen in a vacuum, get to know them. Go to sports and rec, find out who the sports co-ordinators are for your muni/district, get to know them. Are there NGO’s in you area that have youth outreach programs, see if they could use basketball as a means of education.
Fortunately, my area is has a strong culture of basketball, but what is lacking is strong, bold, incisive leadership. Many see the Association as being non-functioning. I’m just encouraged that some folk have stepped forward to serve.
When talking with the bb people, there are pockets of excellence everywhere, its about getting them all together on the same page. I can tell you now, someone who is still involved with basketball must really love the game after everything that has gone on. Get to know them.
Life is all about relationships, and how we interact with others. Everyone has a role, however small. Get those relationships that I was talking about and make yourself available and see what happens.
My disclaimer is, if you have a self-centred, self-serving leadership you may as well go and play tiddlywinks. And that my cyber buddy is a big problem, not just in basketball but in South Africa as a whole.
Last nite Vaal was playing Wits, what happen was, the national coach was coaching Vaal team, to me it did not make sens at all, i think he was suposed to watch bouth teams playing and scourt the young potential players for the next coming events. realy i don’t know who’s saposed to doing that job if he’s gona b busy coaching teams that he doesn’t have acontract with them.